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Will Field points kill grouse???
« on: August 30, 2012, 11:02:17 AM »
Will grouse die when shot with a field point!!!???!!???  I think my arrow will fly through the bird will fly off and my arrow will be gone right??????     :dunno:   :chuckle:  is that better have at it guys!
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Field points for grouse???
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 11:19:02 AM »
I wouldn't recommend it, never thought of if it's legal or not. Get yourself some judo tips and aim for the head.

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Re: Field points for grouse???
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2012, 11:23:24 AM »
Field point should kill em fine if I hit em.  I just like to be legal in all ways.  If judos are legal I don't see why FP wouldn't be?

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Re: Field points for grouse???
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 11:34:34 AM »
Look for the little cut washer looking things you install behind the filed point.  Deadly and Cheap.  Rubber blunts also work good and  make for a good stump shooters.

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Re: Field points for grouse???
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 11:51:28 AM »
Good way to have a bird fly off with a 20 dollar arrow
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Re: Field points for grouse???
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 11:58:49 AM »
Not worried about arrows just the legality of it.

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Re: Field points for grouse???
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 12:00:23 PM »
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Re: Field points for grouse???
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 12:18:23 PM »
The way I read the regs field points are legal for grouse, or anything other than big game so that should answer your question.

I've seen plenty of grouse shot with a bow and its really easy for them to fly or run off after the shot, and it would be even worse with a field tip. I'm not sure where you hunt but where I hunt it can be pretty hard to find them sometimes if they get off the road. Thats why I suggested the head shot with a judo tip.

Check out page 75 of the regs, line f:

f.   It is unlawful to hunt big game animals
with any arrow or bolt that does not
have a sharp broadhead, and the
broadhead blade or blades are less than
seven-eighths inch wide.

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Re: Field points for grouse???
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2012, 12:35:20 PM »
Judo X4

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Re: Field points for grouse???
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2012, 12:37:27 PM »
I would not recomend having a field tip in your quiver. i've heard of a guy that accidently pulled one out and shot a elk with it.

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Re: Field points for grouse???
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2012, 12:48:44 PM »
Did he kill it?

I would not recomend having a field tip in your quiver. i've heard of a guy that accidently pulled one out and shot a elk with it.

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Re: Field points for grouse???
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2012, 02:38:52 PM »
 :yeah:    :yike:  lucky it wasn't his judo it would have bounced off :dunno: and couldn't I mistake a Judo for a broadheads just as easy as a FP ?   :dunno:      I hunt both sides of the state and agree birds get lost easy if they get in the brush.  I think a field point would kill a grouse.  If it broke a wing or neck or hit him in the belly he wouldn't move probably pin him to the ground if I got the right angle on em.  Thanks for the advice.  I'll call wdfw and post pics or even a clip of grouse vs field point if completely legal.

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Re: Field points for grouse???
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2012, 03:05:03 PM »
The way I read the regs field points are legal for grouse, or anything other than big game so that should answer your question.

I've seen plenty of grouse shot with a bow and its really easy for them to fly or run off after the shot, and it would be even worse with a field tip. I'm not sure where you hunt but where I hunt it can be pretty hard to find them sometimes if they get off the road. Thats why I suggested the head shot with a judo tip.

Check out page 75 of the regs, line f:

f.   It is unlawful to hunt big game animals
with any arrow or bolt that does not
have a sharp broadhead, and the
broadhead blade or blades are less than
seven-eighths inch wide.
Forest grouse are not considered big game animals, there are no restrictions i have found for what type of arrow tip that cannot be used..
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Re: Field points for grouse???
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2012, 03:19:11 PM »
I think the benefit of the judo is being able to find your arrow easier.  You hit a grouse on the ground with a field tip, the tip will likely bury itself in the ground and the bird is likely to be pinned with it.  If it is on a log or in a tree, the arrow will likely pass through and be long gone, but you'll probably kill the grouse if you hit it.  I've taken heads off grouse with broadheads...but I was hungry for something besides dehydrated food.  And if grouse grow to be the size of ostriches...would they then be considered big game...or would they still be considered upland game birds?

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Re: Field points for grouse???
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2012, 04:33:49 PM »
I have probably killed as many grouse with a rock as I have with a shotgun.  If they are close enough and your a good "shot" with your arm then this is a really good option as well.  One year in a wilderness area I got my limit in one day with rocks.  After 4 days of nothing but mountain house meals they sure did taste good.  With a little dash of Johny's Seasonings we ate like kings that night. 
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